So I got in as a member and I went to in February and then... that same meeting.... like when I made my presentation in the first meeting in November , October...around the time when I got my appointment, I said: "This is Canada but how come the East don't have a member in this Council" and I said " there must be a reason...Is that the Colonial yet or whatever?" I put in words and somebody might picked it up somehow...they've been working on it for quite a while so anyway.

Barb ???Arrow was consultant ...he was really someone else....Edmonton individual and Hugh Campbell was an ex-???? Marshall of Air Force Canada, you know well...they were informed these guys...you couldn't trick them to do anything without...you know....that was the way they are. John Parker...they all graduated from ...what's his name? Frank Vallee was a professor of Anthropology in Mc Master University....Can you imagine that? You were sitting with him... he knew more about you than...ha..ha...ha...because he had written a couple of books about Eskimos at that time so...Stu Hodgson was an ex-union man out of B.C. woodworkers and he knew his business. I got caught in the corners but I had to make a presentation....I said, "OK, we have this Eastern Arctic area, we have no members from one part of the territories while we have some from the Mackenzie district....They had three district at that time Mackenzie district was down the Mackenzie, Keewatin district was Rankin and North and this area was Franklin. Franklin district. That's the way they described this country one time. There was no Baffin Island or anything like that....So I made my presentation and : "Well can't we have any members, I said, maybe we should go back to England and ask colonial England to look after us like we do in the olden days...services from over there but..."

Somebody got a hold of it and...that was in October...in Novem...in February...when I went to Ottawa, they said well we gone have election now we got pass a bill and then they open election hearing in July...1966. After the Carrother's Commission had their report in the same time..."We need to change the structure of the government" Then they sent electoral boundary people they call them. They made boundaries and...this whole Baffin up North...right up to the High Arctic would become one member Territorial Government, the other one would be down Keewatin up right up to...then the third one would be central...so when we pass the third reading and they became law...I phoned my friend Simonie Michael..."Here, I said, Simonie, I said, there gone have electoral representative now, why don't you run...?"you know I just influenced him I guess. But when they were here the year before in 65, in May, the Territorial Government , I asked most of the older people to go and listen to what it's all about because this was part of their government and ...

In our system there we didn't have too much money to play around with, at that February session, I think, we must have passed maybe $20 million dollars worth of territorial Government to be done, most of it was federal at that time, hey, we just take just a little bit at a time. So, when we ??broke that one, I went back North and I spent the spring there and came back. I was working for the government, I was not getting any indemnity, nothing, I was just getting my expenses paid, not like the appointed, because I was a public servant.


Well, the government was run by the federal government and using the appointed members and a few elected members in Mackenzie District only but then the Carrothers' Commission did that research, they went to every community and every places here, they had to fly around with a ???CanceL??? But Bobby Williamson was among them just explaining what the government is about...Pangnirtung and Pond Inlet and oh...High Arctic and Rankin and so forth. But they were looking for....??? "What we're going to do with these people? Are they going to have elected counselors or ..." Remember? That was the report they had. And that's how...

Well one of the things, I tell you, this goes way back when they first set up United Nation as a nation where it is now, after World War II and how Lester B. Pearson was appointed to sit among the first group that had ...in United Nations now I guess and one of his speeches was that Russia should look after the North better and develop whatever, you know, started criticizing but they retaliated back and said "Canada should look after the native people better!" better health care sure enough just about every family, both Indians and Inuit that lived in ?isolation??, at one time had been touch with TB or institutions ??life and that's how they said "You better clean up your background before you start criticizing us and sure enough the first public health minister of the native people that was... I met him in the hospital when I was there. His name was Paul Martin. That the same Paul Martin, Minister of Finance now...his father ya. So it was ?????. But then that's how they...they had to look after the...They had three hospitals in the North. One was in Aklavik and the RC mission in Aklavik had...they had a small one in Rankin and one in Pangnirtung... for the whole area. Like we have one here general hospital for the whole area, but with technology. But it was...
Because they had teachers... in this area had Ontario curriculum, in Keewatin area they had Manitoba curriculum, and North Quebec had Quebec curriculum and the west had Alberta curriculum but ...they were trying to organize...??????While in Ontario they were taking grade thirteen or something, so we adopted the school curriculum from Alberta, it still here today. We kind of push at it. I don't know how Northern Quebec...???Quebec curriculum but anyway...that's how it started and they all of a sudden they want to get some people to perform their duties as elected people and the ones that were first elected to the council was 1966 in July, was Simonie Michael, first elected native Canadian, aboriginal Canadian ever, and then he was from Iqaluit right up to North Pole!

The one...Bobby Williamson was well known in Rankin district so he got elected as he was... He studied people too he was an anthropologist, now he's doctor of some ... psychology or something in...Saskatoon... Duncan ???Pride was Hudson's Bay, he got in by acclamation....Nobody knows what was really going on!